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We ask big questions of the small things.

Philosophers ponder universal truths, but if I want to pull it down out of the clouds and put it to use here on the ground, I need to talk to you. And your neighbor. And a hundred, two hundred, five hundred others as well.
Not because you, or I, or your neighbor, have the one right answer, but because when all of that story is grouped together, we become the lived answer.

That is a story worth hearing.

CHRIS

QUANDT

PROFESSIONAL RADIO HOST

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Chris Quandt cohosts the Of Dust & Divinity podcast. Chris is an experienced radio host/producer and public speaker. He's thrilled to lead the podcast's technical production. He's also the one to always ask the right question at the right time to unfold another amazing pieces of wisdom as we gather around the table with makers, thinkers, and doers.


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Chris works for a leading financial technology firm that is revolutionizing investing. There, he is involved with marketing, networking, events, and technical production for hundreds of employees over dozens of sites.

Beyond the technical chops, Chris is theater-trained and often carries contract work as a voice over artist.

KABEN

KRAMER

CO-HOST & FARMER

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Kaben is the founder of the Of Dust and Divinity podcast. Kaben is an experienced public speaker and a deep thinker, and enjoys complex and nuanced problems that are best mulled slowly over a fine glass of whiskey.


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Kaben is a fourth generation farmer in Northern California, growing walnuts on Maidu Konkow ground. He and his wife, Jenn, co-own Tenderlyrooted. Kaben often refers to farming as a "semi-monastic" lifestyle and he enjoys long days under the canopy of the walnut trees with the birds and the dust and the sunlight for company.


In addition to farming, Kaben has worked in tech, retail, hospitality, and human resources. He also spent many years working for churches and traveling extensively.

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Episodes 24 & 25

Two incredible books were recommended on these episodes:

Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Friere

The Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler


At the very end of the episode, an excerpt from Rainer Maria Rilke is read.


This episode was recorded on Maidu Konkow land. For more information about the Maidu Kondow, visit


http://maidu.org/

http://www.frth.org/history/index.html


Thank you for listening to this episode. Please rate & review the podcast and share it with friends, and join our Facebook group to continue to dialogue with others just like you.


Episodes 17, 18, & 19

The Radical Womb podcast, co-hosted by Ajira

Ajira’s personal website for coaching and photography

The Doula Support Foundation, which Chelsea helped found in Toronto


Ajira quotes Philip Larkin’s “This Be The Verse” poem when talking about the unique relationship between parents and their children.


Not being a birth worker myself, there were lots of words used that went over my head. One that I had to look up was Amniocentesis, which is when amniotic fluid is removed from the uterus for testing.


Ajira references a Buddhist philosophy called "The Glass is Already Broken" by which we can love things more wholly when we understand their temporal and fragile existence.



At the very end of the episode, an excerpt from Rainer Maria Rilke is read.



This episode was recorded on Maidu Konkow land. For more information about the Maidu Kondow, visit



http://maidu.org/

http://www.frth.org/history/index.html



Thank you for listening to this episode. Please rate & review the podcast and share it with friends, and join our Facebook group to continue to dialogue with others just like you.



Episodes 15 & 16

Jerrad Lopes and Elisabeth Bennett are not people you want to forget! Their wisdom is incredible and I *highly* recommend you read their books and listen to their content:



The Dad Tired podcast

Enneagram Life instagram



"Dad Tired and Loving It: Stumbling Your Way to Spiritual Leadership" by Jerrad Lopes

Enneagram devotionals by Type by Elisabeth Bennett



At the opening of episode 15, Elisabeth mentioned buying K-cups from a local coffee roaster, Olympic Crest. Turns out you can order coffee from them as well!



Elisabeth mentions that her path on the Enneagram started by reading Ian Morgan Cron's book, The Road Back To You. I highly recommend it if you have not read it!



Father Richard Rohr's book, Falling Upward, made another appearance in this episode, and if you haven't yet read it I cannot recommend it highly enough.



At the very end of the episode, an excerpt from Rainer Maria Rilke is read.



This episode was recorded on Maidu Konkow land. For more information about the Maidu Kondow, visit



http://maidu.org/

http://www.frth.org/history/index.html



Thank you for listening to this episode. Please rate & review the podcast and share it with friends, and join our Facebook group to continue to dialogue with others just like you.



Episodes 13 & 14

To connect with Jessie and her amazing hand-made products, visit her Etsy store.



Jessie also mentions her positive experience with EMDR. I can also attest to its usefulness in therapy and in assimilating difficult memories. To learn more about EMDR, visit the EMDR Institute's website.


Ariel provided some incredible content that leads in lots of directions. I'm not sure I'm covering it all here, but this is a start.

She mentions a popular opinion which ties Lyme disease to an animal-research facility on Plum Island. To learn more about how it is believed to be so, check out Bitten: the secret history of lyme disease and biological weapons. If, like me, you tend toward skepticism, you can read an article from the Washington Post by long-time tick researcher Sam Telford which seeks to quell the Plum Island theory.


Additionally, Ariel referenced her doctors in Los Angeles who were able to diagnose her, provide a robust plan of treatment, and actually begin getting some results. I couldn't find them all (due to my lack of spelling, most definitely), but I did find Dr. Uzzi Reiss (and now you can, too).


Ariel also references the influence of her father on her life. His book, Excellence Wins, is available anywhere books are sold (and I highly recommend it!).



At the very end of the episode, an excerpt from Rainer Maria Rilke is read.



This episode was recorded on Maidu Konkow land. For more information about the Maidu Kondow, visit



http://maidu.org/

http://www.frth.org/history/index.html



Thank you for listening to this episode. Please rate & review the podcast and share it with friends, and join our Facebook group to continue to dialogue with others just like you.



Episodes 6 & 7

To connect more with Christopher, check out:

The Philosophical Life Instagram

The Philosophical Life YouTube



To connect more with Jon, head to:

HealthBridge Global website



Christopher refers to "adding friction" between power-actors and those who are under their power as a way to reduce implicit bias. He is referring to Dr. Eberhardt's research on implicit bias in the Oakland Police Department. He also uses the example of a pastor in New Jersey, which comes from wider reporting on Camden's switch to community policing practices.


Jon paints a brilliant analogy when he talks about how our brains make shortcuts as a survival skill, but then those same shortcuts can interfere with other really important life skills. He talks about Lazy eye as needing a "forced stimulus" to get healthy, and Christopher compared the ongoing protests to be the "forced stimulus" requiring our country to reckon with our lazy brain heuristics that lead to cognitive biases (including implicit bias).



At the very end of the episode, an excerpt from Rainer Maria Rilke is read.



This episode was recorded on Maidu Konkow land. For more information about the Maidu Kondow, visit



http://maidu.org/

http://www.frth.org/history/index.html



Thank you for listening to this episode. Please rate & review the podcast and share it with friends, and join our Facebook group to continue to dialogue with others just like you.



Episodes 3 & 4

Thank you for listening to this bonus episode! Back to our usual flow of one conversation carrying on from episode to episode.

Here are some links to Instagram Accounts mentioned during the show:

Tiffany’s Profile
 
 
Wild & Free Homeschool Adventure

A couple awesome podcasts mentioned:
 
 
 
We talked about Richard Rohr for a few minutes, so here are some helpful links for more info:

 


 
We mentioned a few books, and here are two fantastic places to begin exploring:

 

 

Finally, Tiffany mentioned a TED Talk and a research article that influenced her thoughts:
 
 
 
At the very end of the episode, an excerpt from Rainer Maria Rilke is read.

This episode was recorded on Maidu Konkow land. For more information about the Maidu Kondow, visit


Thank you for listening to this episode. Please rate & review the podcast and share it with friends - may this be an opening to a long conversation with the bluebird inside your heart.

Episodes 1 & 2

Kristie mentioned being influenced towards an ethical birth-mother centered adoption through some Instagram accounts. Here are a few she shared with us afterward that she recommends:

Birth mothers:
@bigtoughgirl
@fromanothermotha

Adoptive Parent:
@allison_sweatman

Adoptees:
@throughadoptedeyes
@taravw.postadopt.educator

Rob read a poem by Charles Bukowski. I couldn’t locate the exact version he read, though here is a link to the poem, called “Bluebird”:


I (Kaben) referenced a few half-lines from a poem about the shadow side. The author is Juan Ramon, and the poem is “I am not I” (“Yo soy no yo”), translated by Robert Bly:


At the very end of the episode, an excerpt from Rainer Maria Rilke is read. Here is a link to more from that text:


This episode was recorded on Konkow Maidu land. For more information about the Maidu Kondow, visit


Thank you for listening to this episode. Please rate & review the podcast and share it with friends - may this be an opening to a long conversation with the bluebird inside your heart.